Atlas – Hold on to your hat Dorothy


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… this isn’t Kansas anymore.

Welcome! To the brave new world of Atlas - Fun, strategic, bleedingly painful (at times), and altogether different.

In this post I will attempt to give a brief (and not so concise – sorry if I type to much) overview of getting along in Atlas. It can be very overwhelming at the start, so hopefully this will orientate you a little bit.

Disclaimer 1: you have access to a new tutorial system I do not, so I’m not sure what they will show you, but hopefully its fantastic and this will just be an offline/online reference.

Disclaimer 2: A LOT of what is said here is my personal opinion or experience, your experience or someone elses might vary, and things in Atlas change often.

Disclaimer 3: Ask away, I’ll answer as much as I can, as will other users I’m sure

Lastly, special shoutout to @PGDave why? Because he rocks. Have a coffee good Sir.

This thread will be broken up into the following:

1 Atlas Overview, Territories
2 Basic UI layout and functions
3 Getting around (also known as WTF AM I STUCK AGAIN???)
4 Primarchs
5 Resources
6 Events
7 Battle!
8 Riders
9 Crafting
10.1 Random ramblings
10.2 Startup Blueprint (for new Sapphire etc teams)

I do not promise that I will be able to post every single thing in one go, but I’ll update over the next few days until it is pretty complete.

Righto, lets go

NOTICE: THIS POST IS GRAPHICS HEAVY

Changelog
25 October - Basic post layout, first 5 sections done
26 October - update 1 - Section 9 - Crafting updated
27 October - Update 1 - Sections on Battle, Riders added, some formatting
20 November - Update 2- Section 10.
10 December - Added “Startup blueprint” to section 10

Sorry for slow updates, Real life > me


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What would you like Atlas Guides on?
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When is atlas coming to the rest?
What is the atlas?
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1. Atlas Overview, Territories
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The world is BIG. And its expanding. From smallest scale to largest scale, you have your home, your zone, and then the world itself.

*** Placeholder **** New BIOME MAP needs to be inserted here ******

The world has many little epicenters, where a level 5 zone is the center (See the gold star on the map), with a level 4 zone (four < and a *) or two around it, then level 3 zones (<<<) and then quite a few level 2 zones (<<).

Generally these zones would be of a single element (e.g. Fire, Earth, Wind, Ice or Dark).

Zones have levels (1-5); where a level 1 zone is a safe zone – no pvp. You can never be attacked here, level 2 is an entry level zone, with slightly better resources than zone 1, there are lots of these. Zone 3 – better than 2, less. Zone 4 are really good zones, only a few are found, and they are hotly contested/held by the top teams. The level 5 zones are the rarest, and generally this is held by the top 1-3 teams in the game.

Another way to look at the zones is probably thinking about the current tier system
Diamond is center, sapphire around it, platinum further out, gold etc etc.

If you are in a Sapphire team, probably not wise trying to hold on to a zone 4. Just my thoughts.

Territories inter-connect, with 2-3-4 paths into and out of each territory, linking them up. To get to the one, you have to travel through these “choke” points. More on that later.

There are also special zones called “no-mans land” which is not ownable, these have much higher resource rewards, but are pvp zones and lots of action happen here. They are also the staging area for many PVP events in Atlas.

Each Zone (Territory) has a few unique aspects

  • They have a certain level
  • They have an element assigned to them – eg. Ice shards, or Fire shards
  • They have a mine
  • Some poachers spawn in them
  • They have 3-4 “castles”/”cities” which can be owned.
  • They can border No-mans-land, can border safe-zones, and have 2-3-4 entry points.

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2. Basic UI and functionality
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Ok so the first obvious thing about Atlas, is it looks very different

See the bottom screengrab

This is your atlas UI – its new, looks overwhelming, but its pretty functional

  1. This is your current selected Primarch (more on that later), it is also your compass lock (clicking it turns the orange circle green, which locks /unlocks the map rotation. I strongly suggest locking it, otherwise you get lost easily)
  2. Store icon – self-explanatory
  3. Atlas event icon – Currently there are two atlas events per week
  4. Bazaar (more on that later)
  5. Primarch/Troop button – here you select, control, train Primarchs as well as troops
  6. Return to “normal” world
  7. Current Gold owned
  8. This button shows you all the islands that your team owns, and allows you to quickly jump to that island (very useful!)
  9. This is your statistics for Atlas page. Very useful, it changes to a little chest once a day where you collect your egg token bonus depending on how many zones you control. It also has summaries of your battles, teams battles, etc.
  10. This switches the atlas map overlay so you can see zone type / ownership.
  11. This button collapses the right sided UI elements
  12. This is the current zone you are looking at – in this case Ameria zone.
  13. These is how your primarch looks (in this case a Rusher)
  14. This is a mine – the so called “invader” base. You get gold here, and it’s a endless xp farming base, adjusted to your level.
  15. A city/castle; and its surrounding primarchs.
  16. The tiny green dot with the dashed arrows here is a Poacher, more on these later.

You can zoom in and out by using a pinching movement or a double tap to get to predefined zoom levels. Scrolling navigates the world.


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3. Getting around
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Ok so travelling in Atlas is easy, as long as you remember a few things

  1. Select your primarch
  2. Two select your destination – click it brings up a radial menu like below:

  1. Use “move” to go there, a travel time will be displayed. Using “move next” works like a waypoint system.

  2. Navigate via friendly areas/safe zones. If you see the following beware!
    Blocker

This team has a blocker defense active. Your primarch will get stuck here for 4-6 hours, and likely wiped out by the owner team.

I cannot state this strongly enough. This is one of the most frustrating points for new players. DO NOT NAVIGATE TO AN CASTLE THAT HAS THIS RED CIRCLE – you will get stuck and destroyed. If the base you are going to is friendly to you, ask them to give you free passage, the circle will disappear and you won’t get caught.


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4. Primarchs
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These are the flagship (hahaha sorry) movers and shakers of the Atlas world. They determine at lot.

So you will start off the tutorial with a Fighter, and once you have fought enough battles, you will be able to level him up. Once the fighter reaches level 5, you unlock the ability to research the 4 other primarch types:

  1. Fighter
  2. Rusher
  3. Taunter
  4. Destroyer
  5. Sieger

When you start atlas, you only have 1 primarch slot, but you can research a second slot, which allows you to have 2 primarchs at any given time. There is a third slot, but it is hellishly expensive at the moment (43 000 rubies)

Lets look at some primarchs:

As you can see in the attached photo, I have selected a Rusher, mine is level 10 at the moment.

Each primarch has Attack, Defense, Max troops, Movement speed and a special ability

When fighting against other primarchs in Atlas, they gain G points, which is used to level up so they get stronger.

Fighters – are entry level unit, they are balances attack and defense, but not great at either. The only thing “special” about them is their resummoning time once destroyed is near instant. Making them excellent spies :smiling_imp:

Rushers – Excellent at defense, useless at offense. Special ability: trap; this disables other primarchs special abilities.

Taunter: Big primarch which carries a lot of troops. Its mainly offensive use is to protect your other primarchs, its not great at attack nor defense, but its special ability “taunt” intercepts attacks on your weaker primarchs, forcing the opponent to hit the Taunter instead.

Destroyer: The upgraded fighter. Balanced attack and defense. Not as good as rusher at defense, not as good as sieger at offense. No special ability

Sieger: Very high attack rating, horrible defense. Special ability (siege) makes Forts at Cities/castle less effective.


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5. Resources
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There are quite a few new resources to keep in mind, but its pretty simple.

Gold – this is obtained from (a) Mines (b) Poachers © other players (d) Bazaar

When you attack a gold mine (invader map), you get a certain amount of gold for destroying the base. Each day you have a set of multipliers, which gives more gold for the first ~22 attacks of the day.

Peasants/Hats – this is arguably the most valuable resource you have. It regenerates at a rate of 1440/hour, caps at 8000 and is used to train new troops, at a ratio of around 100 hats for 1 new troop. This is only obtainable via regen, or Bullhorn consumables (from events, packs, and the bazaar)

Elemental shards – there are elemental shards for each dragon element (Fire, Ice, Earth, Wind, Dark) , these are obtained from Poachers, Bazaar, Events and Packs. They are used to craft Rider gear, and generally are very important. The areas your team control each has an elemental shard type that spawns there (look at the UI photo I posted earlier, ours is ICE), and you get a lot more of those shards from poachers/events etc. You will notice in my forge-gear shot, that I have 5-50x more Ice than anything else.

Rider stones – These are used to level up your Riders. They are exclusively found in packs, the bazaar and events.

Scrolls – These are used in crafting gear. They are exclusively found in packs, the bazaar and events.

Keystones – Bazaar coins. These allow you to pick extra cards in the bazaar, and are found in packs and events.

TLDR version: You get gold from mining/attacking; Peasants/Hats regen automatically, Elemental shards from poachers, and everything else from events and the bazaar/packs


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6 Events
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More on this later


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7. Battle! (bit of a wall of text, but I haven’t figure out nice pictures yet)
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Feeling brave, are we?

Battles in Atlas are highly strategic, the individual fight is fairly straight forward, the battle/war per sé is more strategy driven, but the long term implication is significant.

And while I will not explain the latter, a solid grasp of the basics will help you as player, and more importantly you as team, understand how to Battle effectively in atlas.

At the simplest – a battle should be seen like a War hit. You want to do it right the first time, you want 5 flames, and you want to avoid defenders. Simple. :smiling_imp:

Let’s start:

In order for you to fight someone in Atlas, you need your primarch, to move to their primarch, and attack it.

An important point to highlight here is you need TROOPS on your primarch, if you only have 1 troop, you will only destroy 1 troop, and gain 1 Glory point.

Wait what?

Ok let us take a step back:

The GOALS of fighting in Atlas

  1. Win without losing much overall strength
  2. Make the enemy lose overall strength
  3. Gain Glory! Points (G-points or simply G)
  4. Recover well from the fight

Now it’s a little bit tricky to explain the calculations, but I’ll try give you a few rules of thumb when planning an attack

  1. Decide what the maximum amount of troops are that you are willing to lose in a battle (please note: the idea is not to lose them, but if things go south, you limit your losses).
  2. Pick the prime you want to gain G points on, and transfer that amount of troops to the prime (e.g. if you can’t afford to lose more than 5000 troops, don’t go with more than 5000 troops)
  3. Pick a target wisely (more on that below), and pick a location (fort or mine or poachers)
  4. Move there, and attack
  5. Treat it like a war attack that you MUST win. Aim 5 flames (it rewards twice the kills than 4 flames)
  6. Once fight is done, evaluate outcome and regroup – retreat or attack another.

Now let us flesh the above out a bit.
Different primes have different attributes. As discussed previously, Rushers are great at defending, but horrible at attacking, and Siegers the opposite.

So…. If you want G points on your Rusher, get someone to attack it. If you want points on your Sieger, attack someone.

Also, using the same logic, you don’t desperately want to go attacking someone’s Rusher, when you could hit a sieger, makes sense right?

When you attack there are a few things that factor in what the outcome is

Important things:
Your attack rating vs their defense rating
The presence or absence of a fort (forts add +attack and +defense to the owner)
How well you do in the battle (5 flames gives you twice the ratio to 4 flames 100%; there is a dropoff at 70% again; and below 10% you will have a dismal outcome)
And lastly the amount of troops involved.

Scenario 1

Simply put: if your attack rating = their defense rating; you have similar amount of troops; and you 4 flame 100% them almost equal win:loss

Same battle but you 5 flame them - you will have close to a 2:1 ratio

Same battle but you lose with less than 10% killed - you will have a 1:10 ratio or close to that

Scenario 2

Sieger vs sieger Your attack rating 250, their defense rating 50 – you start with a 5:1 ratio against them, 5 flame them, you will have a 10:1 ratio……

Scenario 3

You get attacked on your sieger with their sieger, but at your home base that gives you +50 (number for example only), and you defend heavily;

Their attack rating 250, your defense rating 100: so ratio 1:2.5; you defend heavily and they only get to say 40%. Now its something like 1/2.5 * 100/40 – so ratio is quite close to 1:1 again.

These numbers are rough guesses on my part, as I’m illustrating a point. It is not easy to calculate the exact outcome, nor should you bother.

Now strategy wise, it might seem like a great idea to hit that taunter with 150 000 troops loaded up sitting all alone on that poacher. Hey you looked at your taunter, and it has only 150 defense rating.

BEWARE!

See that taunter’s level? A levelled up primarch gains troop capacity, and attack and defense rating. Hitting a level 15 taunter is …. Painful. You might win the fight (and even then probably not going to 5 flame it if it’s a high base), but due to the amount of troops it has loaded, you might end up wiping out your army.


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8. Riders
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Dragon Riders are one of the major selling points of Atlas. As of the current game state, you can have 4+1 riders. More will be added in the future.

You have:

  1. Grogg – from the seasonal tree, most of you know about him

  2. Three riders, each aimed at a specific dragon type
    * Vanquisher – for hunter
    * Conqueror – for sorcerer
    * Warrior - for warrior

  3. Defender rider – for base defense (perch rider)

It is important to note that the riders fit “best” with a certain dragon class.

Riders are accessed via the Active Dragon Roster, click on your dragon, and top right there will be a “rider” menu (red arrow)

Clicking on that brings up a “hired/unhired” tab, the lists the various riders. You hire one by spending 5 Riders stones. These are also used to level up riders, and as such are very valuable.

Once you hired the appropriate rider for the dragon you want to assign it to, you need to Bond the rider to the dragon. This is done by clicking the bond rider button, and takes roughly 60 minutes. Once completed, you can access the rider info screen by clicking the rider info button. (white circle)

This brings up a menu system — Inventory, and Level & Skills

Inventory is for rider gear, discussed under point 9 below.

Looking at the Level & Skills menu:

To the left you see all the possible skills for your rider (purple square), they work similar to research trees, in that you have to complete an earlier part, to unlock the later part. Many of the skills have multiple “levels” usually 5, so putting one point into the Rider skill, would give it say 1/5.
You need 5/5 before the next tree unlocks. I am unsure if 3/5 in one, and 2/5 in the other on the same “progress level” in a tree will unlock the next path – I’ve never tried. (Green square)

You will see how many rider stones you have, and how many you need for the next level (red square)

You can also see the amount of stored G points your rider has (yellow arrow), and needs for next level.

It is important to note that skills get more expensive as you move along the line, and also more important to note that you cannot obtain all skills. It’s a choice – not just a pick everything. So plan your rider well. There is no “undo” button – picking the wrong skill is permanent at this point in time.

Now it isn’t my place to tell you how to level your rider, but for a basic hunter rider I would go as follows (the options in bold are choices, rest are mandatory)

Level 5 in Dragon attack
Level 5 choice is between rider xp and dragon xp I picked Rider, doesn’t really matter
Level 5 Increase dragon HP
Level 5 decrease Enemy totem debuff
Level 5 decrease dragon healing time
Level 5 lightning resist (truthfully you can pick any resist, but the dragon you put rider on must have that resist for it to function)
Level 5 hunter HP
Level 5 Hunter attack power

Once you are there (roughly a level 43 rider), you have 7 levels left to go pick other skills you want.

Rider xp table as of 3.70 looked sort of like this (this is my data so don’t shoot me if its wrong - it might have changed)


Request: Atlas dragon rider table
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9. Crafting
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One of the major new “rewards” of atlas is the ability to graft gear for your rider.

This is done at your normal Forge building, through the new “Gear” tab

This is how the interface looks:

A) As you can see, you have scrolls (one of the consumables), and then you have each of the different elemental shards and the numbers you own.
B) You have various filter options, eg. Dragon type (hunter sorcy warrior), slot, and element type
C) And then the various gear options – note that for each ELEMENT (blue circle) there is an OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE gear type (green circles), and sometimes multiple options per slot
D) You have crafting que slots, similar to normal forge (note: can only speedup crafting with rubies)

Now with crafting there is something important to note:

Gear can only be put on a dragon of the same element – in other words you can’t put dark element gear on Noctua (a wind element dragon), you need wind element gear.

Right, now back to crafting
Each item you craft, had certain crafting requirements – let’s look at them in detail in the photo below:

As you can see there are 4 rarities – common, rare, epic, legendary
Each gear piece, can also be upgraded a maximum of 10x

Each time you craft an item, it uses a certain amount of scrolls (most items are 50, some 100, and the weapons 500!). The requirements to craft 1 item of a type is listed in the picture, it’s different depending on element.

When crafting you have a dice roll chance of getting a specific rarity, common is common, rare frequent as well, epics are fairly rare (?10-15% - guessing), and legendary items are well… not frequent. So it is entirely possible to get that epic bow for Noctua on your very first craft, but it’s much more likely that you will get 3-4 common ones, then a rare, then some more commons etc.

The main difference between crafting and upgrading is twofold: upgrading doesn’t require scrolls, and upgrading improves the CURRENT quality item – it’s an expensive process, so perhaps focus on only upgrading really good pieces (Long-term vision).

The take-home message is that crafting is VERY worthwhile, it makes a massive difference to a dragon in combination with the rider.


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10. Getting up to Mischief (fight planning and execution)
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(this is a slightly different take on the battle section - it is written from a different perspective, hopefully it adds/illuminates some points I’ve made elsewhere)

Ok… so you have gotten the basics down of Atlas, and now you want to earn some G-points for your primarch and riders, without wasting too much opportunities along the way.

School fees are fine, but you would prefer to not pay for years and years to come? Right let us see what we can do.

In my mind, Atlas fights (whether small scale skirmishes by 1 player, or large scale alliance vs alliance wars), can be broken down to a few simple steps

  1. Planning
  2. Scouting
  3. Execution
  4. Debriefing/evaluation

The planning phase is fairly simple for a skirmish

  • You need to decide how many troops you want to lose maximum
  • You need to figure out what meta you will use (more on this just now)
  • And you need to maximise the G-points you get, while minimising long term losses.

Right so troop losses

  • You need to decide on what percentage of your troops are disposable in trade for G-point. Put otherwise, if it all goes horribly wrong (or right) and you lose everything that you take with, what amount of troops do you feel comfortable losing, without weakening your team.
  • Now there is no magic number for this, but generally speaking you can either use a flat value (e.g. 5000), or you can tailor it to your goals – let’s say you are short 2400 g points for your next primarch level up, it would be a good idea to take around 10000 troops if that’s your goal.
  • Once you have decided what you can or cannot lose, load those on your primarch (primarchs) and advance to meta-planning

Meta

  • I refer to the “meta” as the summary of your strategy you will use
  • Essentially whether you go in as a solo player, small group, or large team you need a strategy that will give you an advantage – you need to kill a lot, and lose a little, with some sort of contingency plan for things that can go wrong.
  • The “meta” is the combination of primarchs, abilities used, and execution.
  • There are many possible “meta’s” and becoming a good player / good atlas team is dependent on you figuring out your own ways.
  • I will provide one or two simple meta strats, and you can work from there.
  • Being rigid in your meta, is a sure fire way of getting a bad outcome – maybe not this time, but eventually.

Primarchs and their roles

  • It is critical once again to understand which primarchs for which duty
  • Simply put a primarch has an attack rating, a defense rating, a special ability, and a troop capacity.
  • This was discussed elsewhere, but in summary
  • Attack rating of attacking primarch vs. defense rating of defending primarch gives you a ship loss ratio; this is influenced by the presence or absence of a fort bonus, and by how well you do in the fight
  • Successfully getting 100% 5 flame attack doubles the ratio in the attacker’s favour, it scales in a mostly linear fashion down to <10% of a base destroyed which turns the ratio completely against you. There is a stepping point at 70% destroyed as well.
  • The “name” of the primarch is irrelevant – a level 15 destroyer could be as much a threat as a sieger, or rusher etc.

Examples:

Sieger attacks rusher
Sieger attack power 250; rusher defense power 250
So ratio is 250:250; aka 1:1
If attacker gets 5 flames 100% - the ratio becomes 2:1
If attacker gets 4 fllames 100% the ratio stays 1:1
If attacker gets wiped out having killed less than 10%, ratio becomes 1:10

Rusher attacks Destroyer
Rusher attack power 50; destroyer defense power 200
So ratio is 50:200; aka 1:4
If attacker gets 5 flames 100% - ratio becomes 2:4
If attacker gets 4 flames 100%, ratio stays 1:4
If attacker gets wiped out <10%: ratio becomes 1:10

Sieger attacks sieger
Attack power 250: defense power 50
Ratio is 5:1
If attacker gets 5 flames 100 – ratio 10:1
If attacker gets 4 flames 100 – ratio 5:1
If attacker gets wiped out having killed less than 10%, ratio becomes 1:10

The “ratio” is troops lost — so assuming you brought 5K troops, a ratio of 2:1 means you kill two for each 1 you lose, so you kill 10k, lose 5k.

There is a maximum amount you can kill in an attack (generally 15k)

So what are some highly effective metas?
Well I don’t want to give away all options, but here are a few obvious ones

  1. Destroyer alone (good attack and defense
  2. Sieger-taunter (you attack with the sieger, and refill it from taunter. Taunter protects your sieger from direct attacks)
  3. Destroyer-Rusher (rusher traps taunters, destroyer attacks siegers)
  4. Sieger-Rusher-Taunter (rusher traps taunters, taunter protects sieger, sieger attacks)
  5. Taunter-taunter-sieger (if enemy has more than 1 rusher)

Scouting

  • Ok so once you have identified a target to attack you need to scout a little
  • Scouting can be as much as sending a 1 troop fighter in to get a complete idea of troop numbers, primarchs etc., or as little as just eyeballing the primarchs around an island/mine/poacher/nml zone.
  • A quick critical assessment of what you are up against, is the key to a successful campaign.

Examples

  • If you are attacking a fort, and you see 5 rushers at the fort, you will need a much different approach than seeing a fort with 1 taunter and 4 siegers
  • Also, if you see a level 15 taunter for a 500 base, you need to weigh up your options, vs seeing a level 1 taunter with a level 130 base attached.

Once you have assessed the situation, you need to (a) move on, (b) change /adapt your meta, © lower your expectations or (d) go ahead.

Let’s get back to our top two examples

In scenario one – 5 rushers at a fort, you need to have a look at their levels (both base and primarch) – you need to understand attacking a rusher is a painful exercise (you will take high losses), and if you do decide to attack them, you probably want to use a sieger, so you can get close to a 1:1 ratio. This is not the battle to be fighting with your destroyer. On the plus side, since they have very few offensive abilities, you are probably fairly safe bringing in your sieger without a taunter as cover.

On the other hand, in scenario two – the 1 taunter and 4 siegers – I would ideally want to create a scenario where I evaluate the taunter. If it’s from a low level base – I would hit it straight out, if it’s a high level taunter, I would bring a rusher to disable the taunter, and then hit the sieges as fast as I can, inflicting mass casualties. I’m very likely to want to bring at least 1 rusher, and probably a destroyer. If I decided to bring a sieger, I would need a rusher with it as well as a taunter or two – so becomes a mult- player affair.

Lastly – it is completely fine (and rational), to walk away from a fight if it is stacked against you. Simple running your destroyer into a high level rusher over and over covered by a fort is stupidity – you gain nothing, and lose a lot.

It is also important to have an exit strategy. Whether you hit till destroyed, or plan to hit and run – make sure this is predetermined and stick to it. “just 1 more hit” turns a highly successful attack into a poor campaign very quickly. Imagine hitting with your sieger two times then retreating could have resulted in 20k killed, 2k lost. If in the beginning of your third hit they hit you first, while defending your attack, you might find yourself in a situation where you get killed during their attack and you lose 10k, and they defend your attack on them, losing you another 10k. So you end up down 22k killed for 22k lost, vs 3 mins earlier being 20k killed, 2k lost.

Execution

Right – so you have found your target, you’ve decided on your meta, and now it is time for execution.

Steps are as follows

  1. Load up primarchs
  2. Get close (travel to nearby launching point – safe zone / allied area etc.)
  3. Make sure everyone that is part of the attack is up to speed – have your wings ready, have your defenders ready, make sure you have an exit plan.
  4. Don’t announce your arrival
  5. Trap first, then hit fast and hard. Always have a wing. Time is critical, so a well-co-ordinated strike can usually take out 2-3 primarchs before retaliation. Once the enemy team starts mobilizing, it is time to fall back.
  6. Priorities are (1) trap taunters / destroy taunters (2) hit squishy targets/high threat targets like siegers (3) re-assess (4) attack next wave, or fall back.
  7. Execute exit strategy

Debriefing

  • One of the critical points of any attack is to analyze it afterwards
  • What went well, what went poorly, what was unexpected, and what can you do better in the future.
  • See if your pre-war planning was accurate (did you gain the G you thought? Did you lose less/as much as planned? Can you revive the numbers you bargained on?
  • If you do not do this – you will not get better at it. Haphazard learning is slow and painful, directed learning is efficient (but still painful)

Calculating G points, revives etc.

(based on current understanding) [3.92]

Let’s take a hypothetical scenario

This section is now out of date due to the change that just went live - will correct as soon as I have enough experience at the new system to make sure I don’t give out wrong information

Rules (simplified)

  1. Potential glory gained is based on the amount of troops you kill (0.75* Troops killed)
  2. This gives you the potential glory available (eg if you kill 10 000 enemy troops 7500 glory is available)
  3. This is then tempered by the amount of troops you lost, in that it can never be higher than 1.5x the troop amount you lost,e.g. in the same above scenario, if you lost 5000 —> 7500 glory is awadred, if you lost 10 000 —> 7500 glory is awarded, if you only lost 1000 —> 1500 glory is awarded (the remaining 6000 potential glory is lost, because you picked on someone a lot weaker than you).
  4. All attacks have a MINIMUM revive percentage of 66.6%
  5. Cost of revive is roughly 20% of what a new troop is worth
  6. All 5 flame attacks will give MINIMUM revive, aka 66.6% for the attacker.

There are a few things I would like to stress

  1. There is no “ideal” primarch to attack with/defend with
  2. There are some bad choices (attacking with a rusher, defending with a sieger)
  3. I abhor “kill trading” and will not promote it
  4. Generally speaking, suicide attacks might make you think you are doing well in the short term (eg you are gaining G points), but in the long term you are weakening yourself
  5. Same goes for “poorly” executed attacks to gain a lot of G points. It might look great in the short term (eg everyone that uses a rusher to attack another rusher), but practically speaking you are massively weakening yourself over the long run.
  6. Always do the most successful attack you can - stack ratios in your favour, aim for 10:1. Yes you might “only” gain what seems to be a little bit of G points, but in the long run this is by far the superior strategy, all things considered.

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10.2 Startup Blueprint

Ok … so you’ve ventured out, taken a land of your own and had big dreams of building an empire where you will …. BOOM!?@WTAF!@#@? … ok safezoned by D1.

Now what?

Right let’s regroup.

First order of business – get a plan. Second stick to it. Third start small go slow.

So…

Here it is

Step 1:

Find a nice cozy safezone spot. Ideally, you want a safezone spot that gives you access to a few different colors of elements, in other words near a transition area, so you can say get wind and fire, by going left or right.

Get your entire team there, and have them set the safezone island as their home base.

Step 2:

This is going to be your daily routine for the next 4 weeks

  • Your hats regen at a rate of 1440/hour, or put otherwise, you can safely build 399 troops every 3-4 hours.
  • Now no one expects you to be able to pull that off flawlessly, so with a bit of leeway, its pretty reasonable to expect your team to be able to AT MINIMUM do it 4x in a day - in other words 1600 troops per player per day
  • That’s 11200 troops a week, or 44800 troops per player for the 4 weeks
  • If you have 50 players, that’s 2.24million troops for your team in the month you wont be pvp-ing actively.

So back to the steps

  • Hit the gold mine enough times every 3 hours so that you always have enough gold to build the 399 troops.
  • Make sure that you hit enough poachers each day to use up all the poacher multipliers
  • Avoid “atlas events” that expect you to kill of your troops.

Step 3:

In this month you need all your players to pick up a little bit of pvp experience, without getting themselves wiped out. Specifically, you want them to pick up enough experience to understand the basics of combat, know the atlas pvp map, and navigate safely.

You all start with a fighter primarch, and your entire team’s goals should be to level that primarch to level 5, so you can unlock the research for other primarchs. That’s it. No more pvp than that. You need every troop you can get, G points are secondary gain later, makes very little difference when you have a small army only.

So do small skirmishes at best – usually good during normal game major events, as your primes can move around freely - go to No man’s Land zones with small amounts of troops (1000) and attack and defend.

Don’t attack big players at their bases – your loss ratios will be stupidly high.

So now – at the end of the third week, you have 2 primarch slots, a level 5 fighter, and the ability to research new primarch types.

Step 4

Picking primarchs for your team

  • Just about every member of your team should be using Destroyers and Rushers. Rushers to defend, destroyers to move around and attack.
  • If you are lucky enough to a >lvl350 player on your team, s/he can consider getting a taunter.
  • A select few of your better fliers that can take out high level bases can get siegers. But generally no more than 5 out of the 50.

Step 5

Decision time!

It’s the end of a month, everyone is twitchy, and you want land. Ok… so how do you get it.

PLANNING is key.

You need three elements
I. Identify the correct zone
II. Identify the correct timing
III. Execute
IV. HODL! (ok old jokes aside), you need to hold what you take….

Let’s break this down shall we?
(1) So careful zone planning is important. You need to locate a zone 2 area, somewhere in the periphery. Its generally pointless trying to take a zone off the very big teams, since they can come take it back easily, set your sights a little bit lower — find another sapphire team that has say 2-3 zones - they are probably over extended, and if you take 1 zone, they will likely not take be able to defend it successfully. They will also have to think carefully about taking it back, since it might weaken them to the extent that they might lose other territories as well.
(2) Be careful for sapphire teams that are sitting between Diamond teams – they are almost certainly part of an alliance.

Now on the topic of alliances. Have you considered one? Or more specifically, why aren’t you in one yet? Atlas is team sport, or more correctly – multi team sport. A few friends make a huge difference – you can attack together, defend together, and take over zones together! Hah, now there is a thought.

Ok so now you have a zone targeted, what now?

Scouting of course! Summon a 1 troop fighter and run into the zone you are interested in’s fort. Get stuck, now open up the castle view, click on garrison and have a look. A detailed look. How many troops? How many rushers? Siegers? destroyers? Size of garrison (NB), Taunters? What level are they?

Ok that was informative… (ps your primarch has been freed, you can resummon it)

Right. So …. Too strong? Pick another target (Phew… disaster avoided), weak? Why? Is the team over extended? Over confident? Something else?

Ok… so either this is the right target or move on.

Target good? Watch them. See what times the team is active, mostly offline, and what your teams profile is. You want to hit them right at the start of the time that your team is active for 4-6hours, and their team is mostly offline. This is important. Hitting a team on the front door is hard – doing so while they are online and defending is stupid.

One more thing about timing, has to do with conquering and holding

If the team has more than ~75k troops present (garrison or primed), it will activate a PVP bubble, which gives them 24 hours to regroup. Ideally you want to hit a team with less at the base, so you can actually conquer it without the shield going up, but if not, you will need to hit them twice 24-hours apart. So plan on this – makes it much harder.

Also the BEST time to hit a team is roughly 60 hours before a major pvp event starts. Why? Because it allows you 2x 24h attack windows to conquer the base, and then doesn’t allow them 2x 24 attack windows to conquer it back before the pvp shield activates and gives you 5 days to consolidate.

By then most teams will give up, and the new land is yours.

Now, once you have taken over your new pad, don’t over extend! 1-zone is more than enough. MORE than enough. Did I say 1 zone is good enough to start with? For the next 2-3 months, 1 zone will do you just fine. As soon as its yours, get your team organized. At all entry points into the zone, you need to fortify well. That’s where all these rushers and destroyers are good. They are made for defending. So get your major entrances properly fortified, try get a fort up in the shielded period so you can control access to your lands.

Make sure to leave your siegers in the safe zone – so they can’t be sniped. And get your team settled in, split troops so all your bases are defended, but the major choke points need to be able to pop shields.

Welcome to your new home! Now – wake up – stop dreaming — and go find a cozy safe zone to start your empire from!


#12

Oooh dis gonna be good


#13

Thanks for putting this together. Great post @Gox1201


#14

Can you show us how to see who and how many ships are on your home island. with a SS… I would like to learn how to see that…


#15

So excited to see you continue to build this out, @Gox1201.
Thank you for putting together a guide to introduce Atlas. It’s certainly not an easy task!


#16

Sure, I’ll even make a step by step. Top secret

Click on worldmap, find the Eldrios continent, pick any castle, click move now. Once there you can see all you desire :grin:


#17

Excellent! Thanks Gox! ill be there in 5 mins!

Hey! wait a minute…


#18

When is atlas actually going to be released? Everything I read says 25th

And with PG’s bad reputation they should separate it from same time as event start…


#19

Ok updated some parts, will do more tonight


#20

Nice post for our Atlas newcomers :grin:

Almost thought the Sieger got no love but you just forgot to format it like the rest so I almost missed it :wink: