Controversial mercenary war tactic condoned by PG


#546

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#548

Well i wanna go over all this 1 more time so i dont embarrass myself in front of everyone…(WAR)dragons, i forget that one time an army never had help from an outside, private party OR that one time a war was lost bc of 1 person…actually should probably just start all over and explain what flames and defense points have to do with anything.


#549

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Question for Platinum league folks, is it fairly common to have 100% participation in Platinum league? I’ve gather in Sapphire league and Diamond league it is 150% required to have 100% participation otherwise you’re not staying their for long.

I ask because this thread has two different definition of defendable. Defending for defense points only makes a difference if the teams are going to end up tied in flames. The only time I could see tieing consistently would be if both teams were capable of consistently getting 250 flames.

I haven’t made it past Plat IV yet, what I’ve seen for Plat IV and below, participation rates are rarely 100% and most wars are won or lost based on participation. This is were having a base that the other team can’t get five flames on can become important and defense points don’t matter. I can see how bringing in a ringer at that point would be upsetting.

BTW for those teams that have 100% participation, can we take a minute and recognize how impressive it is to get a group of 50 people to work together? How often do you see a team building exercise of 50 people in real life work well?


#550

It is possible to 5 flame a top base if undefended and attackers using a proper combination with strategy for id say at least saphire but there are circumstances where even lower in tier. It is about coordination, main objecrive being to reach 250 flames. Team that reaches 250 flames in less dp and essentially in tries, wins.

Not that impressive to me, tbh. I have no life though.(on participation)


#551

I am in Plat II, it is very competitive. We will replace an individual that missed a War, most teams we have faced generally do get 250 flames and then it comes down to defensive points. Your explanation about teams lack of participation doesn’t make how a ringer would effect much. If they don’t get 250 flames even with a ringer… still about which team is more active. If the team that uses a ringer against a team that doesn’t have everyone attack, then it’s still about participation and the other team would probably of lost anyways.


#552

I won’t get into how a ringer does or doesn’t make a difference. I think 500+ posts have indicated strong difference in opinion about it. I just said I could see how bringing one in could be upsetting. I agree it’s more about the participation.

Thanks for the insight on the participation in Platinum II! It’s good information. :blush: It looks like my team has a long road ahead of us.


#553

Was trying to help you man, sorry you’re so set in not listening to anybody that doesn’t think the world is ending :man_shrugging: good luck to you.


#554

Ok ok ok ok guys. Enough is enough. What really matters is who needs me to crush your enemies for you?


#555

What matters will be, how much they will offer you :stuck_out_tongue:


#556

Can we hire you for our next war? Back me up and ill swap like a champ :slight_smile:


#557

The point of a war is to see if oneteam is stronger than another bringing in mercs completely nulifies this so no point in wars so 50 vs 50 no substitutes this is not a football game no injuries appart from some insecure peoples pride


#558

Really? I thought it was to see if one team has better strategy than the other?

Otherwise you could simply sum the player levels and declare a winner? no need to fight?


#559

If a team has better strategy then they wont need a merc :man_shrugging:t2:


#560

Maybe the better strat is the merc?


#561

Jesus it’s not cheating & the higher up in rankings you go the more stupid it is. The higher player can follow every single player on your team, but that’s also going to give away a lot of defense points. If the other team is smart you can still 250 them but they will beat you in defense points. Having a player come to help isn’t always advantageous.


#562

You say free defense points. That is not always the cas we fought a war where they brought in a ringer and used airplane mode so we couldnt even get in to defend. No surprise we lost by defenses. Players brought in after the war has been declared should not be allowed to fly backup on war runs. @PGJared


#563

Two separate issues. Airplane is airplane mode whether there is a merc or no.


#564

But if they are using airplane mode, wouldn’t it be impossible for anyone else to be in that run too? And since mercs would be unable to launch a war attack of their own, isn’t this is a moot point?


#565

Yes anyone could but the players originally on the team couldnt take our biggest base so without the ringer them flying in AP mode wouldnt have mattered. The most they could get without the ringer was two flames, with the ringer they five flamed all our big bases with no defenses for our team.