Dark Flak Tower Balance


#77

Honestly, I think the Dark Flak is fine where it is other than the lack of scaling past level 43 (or whatever it was) for the basic shot. The basic damage does need to scale up, though as noted previously your current scale is off. But I think once you find the appropriate max power for it to scale up to (which is somewhere between the current level, and the level you “accidentally” tested). Then simply re-adjust the entire range over which it scales so the numbers scale appropriately for each tier. But IMO the overall functionality of the Dark Flak as it currently exists is actually pretty good (ie Low power standard shot, very high powered charged shot, and very short stun).


#78

It’s currently not a very short stun since the most recent update, but I agree with that’s the idea, even though the “low” normal shot isn’t that low (capped damage aside).


#79

So, one of the reasons “keep it the way it was before” just won’t work is because the normal shots of that tower are capped. As dragons gain power the Dark Flak Tower would rely solely on supershot damage and would start to seriously underperform.


#80

I would like tochange to b after reading through this page as i for one also like the shotgun analogy


#81

I agree with red. B. Looks like the b group has taken the lead in votes.


#82

To be honest with the community, not on this topic specifically, but majority of people choose something that is a terrible choice due to them being uninformed and then those that actually know what they are talking about suffer because the “Majority” voted something else; for example Nydryr… You let the whole player base vote and look what we got.

You wouldn’t ask someone who plays basketball for 3months about their opinion about changing rules and you wouldn’t value his/her opinion as much as you would someone that plays 3-4 years.

I think it is great that PG is reaching out to community for feed back etc, when it comes to something so drastic as this (affecting people at the end game mostly) why would their and a lvl 20’s opinion weigh the same.

And I’m sure you could already make a WD meme about me on this topic already since I’ve been sarcastically commenting on this ever since Kinnarus came out. But for God sakes, majority of people in this game think Kinnarus is OP… Seriously guys, the same people that chose spell sets for Nydryr, the same people that will affect what is done with these towers… The same people that “love” Mega Coins (the ones you got in private feedbacks)…

Sad…


Is Equestor basically Kinnarus redux?
#83

Exactly! At my point in the game and lower, there is nothing wrong with flaks and turrets. So how can I give a proper opinion in changing them? I just hope any scaling has a minimal effect on towers under lvl 30 or so.

I (and others at my level) can’t say what needs to be done at the top end when we have no experience with that level of play. Our opinions are irrelevent. I just hope those with the experience make the right decision. If you don’t know what’s best, then don’t vote.


#84

Yeah lets nerf the only thing keeping saphire tier in check for lvls 300+ defended, i bet everyone who spent months developing their layout based on current stats will be thrilled! Answer - D: none of the above.

  • If seriously considerimg this, what was the point in releasing a spell like elemental barrier?

  • ☆If a decision MUST be made between the 3 options, id have to go with less damage but longer stun… this would lower the drastic impact that the dark flak has all by itself while giving other towers the opportunity to make up for what the dark has had taken away…


#85

Of the proferred options, I like shotgun B.

Might I also suggest finding a use for the absolutely absurd amount of fire and ice shards most long time and/or spending players have? Maybe a gatling gun turret that alternates freezing and magma core bullets or something idk.


#86

Exactly this. I feel my ‘vote’ would not be as valuable as someone in the “end-game” only because I’m not having to face level 50-60 towers or any where near obsidian to actually judge how its like in the upper tier of the game.


#87

A because if i just want stuns i will go for trebuchets.


#88

@PoItergeist :hugs::hugs:


#89

This is where what I really don’t get at all…
Below is screenshot of my lv 45 dark flak that I posted before in my post for archer and cannon nerfing. This was before ver3.90


Compared to my current lv49 flak capped at 1.33M, it seems like way it was before didn’t have a cap and was working perfectly fine.
I didn’t have fire turret or flak beyond level 40, but has there really been such a problem? At least for dark flak?


#90

No offense, but I hope PG automatically filters and ignores “opinions” from all players that don‘t have any towers above lvl40 as those aren‘t affected by this change.


#91

Not something I can filter for on the forum.


#92

Like b or c option here


#93

For everyone’s sake I hope so too. The only one of the towers I “voted” on I included I’m not high enough to know what the post-update changes did from experience (I said I don’t get how making the fire turret worse is a good thing since it’s so easily countered/avoided). This one and fire flak didn’t vote. So from someone who doesn’t have lvl 40 towers, I agree with MareZ and @Coach. I’m sure there is a way that forum posters levels can be looked up (hello these are our ign’s :rofl:).


#94

B would be my choice.


#95

This is the same type of argument that was used in opposition to Women’s Suffrage, think about that. And Nydryr is a unique dragon, something fun and different, was not meant to be the best dragon in the game. Give other people and their opinions a chance, you and this game will be better off for it.


#96

I vote for option B as well.